Thank you Evan,
Always a work in progress!
My favourite verse in the spiritual interpretation of the Lord’s Prayer is,
“And Love is reflected in love”
Thank you Evan that you remind us again at this important subject which you gave us already on the 6th of August. Forgivness is one of the most important divine qualities supporting healing.
When I just opened the SV of 6th August I found a comment, made on the 7th from “visitor”.
That person thought that she was judged by members of a church because she did not wear a helmet when she came to church by bike.
Perhaps it would help her or him if that judging is seen as thoughts of love by the members that the biker is protected and safe. Although we are protected by God, I think those thoughts of the members are ment loving and caring, not critizising.
I am so grateful being a christian scientist, learning that Love is the liberator and healer 🙂
Oh, the former SV on” not judging” was posted on the 4th of August.
Lovely messages…Thanks Evan.. Only if everyone realized that if we forgive others we too will be forgiven. If we do not judge, we will not be judged…
Evan at times it becomes difficult to immediately forgive when you are hit hard in the face.. It hurts,,And it does take sometime for me to forgive…Though of course in science we do forgive out of love, by seeing he perfect creation of God. But I must confess that it takes sometime for me to forgive.. Does everyone face this problem???
Kindly let me know from you Evan as to how do you face someone, who had or who does hit you hard? How does one face a situation where you are cheated and let down..Is it very easy to immediately forgive? Though we daily study the Truths in Christian Science and know that God creates only the perfect man and we need to see God’s creation with God’s eyes, but at that moment when we are let down or cheated these things don’t come to mind immediately and we tend to react, get annoyed, be judgmental, tempted to condemn. To respond with love immediately is a bit difficult…Please throw some light on this subject because I wish to respond with love at all times…
Thanks again for your daily inspiring messages and the spiritual feast that we enjoy.
When people hit you the hardest, that’s when you want to forgive the fastest. Forgiveness is for you, not for them. If you can’t forgive, you’re likely holding negative thoughts, and those negative thoughts cause harm to you, not to the other person. They hurt you not them. This is why Jesus forgave on the cross. He didn’t want any anger, hatred, ire, or ill-will in his thought. Those would have killed him. He had a pure thought of Love and was able to say, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” That pure thought of Love is what enabled him to triumph over the crucifixion and walk out of the tomb alive.
It’s human pride, ego and self-righteousness that get offended, and we want to be 100% free of those in order to triumph over our enemies and move on without any hurt or harm from them, just like Jesus did.
So very interesting, Evan, what you declared to Nergish. I did not either see the forgiveness this way, that forgiveness is for us and not for the otherone. thats a great lesson for me today, thank you very much for this reply.
I myself must frankly admit, that I am not quite free from “not judging others” if this judgment is justified. How about this situation?
I know such a situation which cannot be clarified verbally.
And I think in this instance the only solution is earnest prayer.
Thank you Evan for this profound reminder – “He didn’t want any anger, hatred, ire, or ill-will in his thought. Those would have killed him”. I can so easily get caught up in the muddling race thoughts (whose penalty as sin is death) and lose sight of the real meaning and message of the crucifixion as the crossing out of all negative thoughts and lies in order to allow eternal life to manifest: in order not to die, Jesus Christ had to instantly forgive, and in showing us the way to eternal life He did “save us from our sins”, and might rightly be called Savior of the world. The “world in sinful thought” saw him killed, but pure Love can never die. This key really helped me understand what Jesus and Paul were talking about.
Here is where “Love thy neighbor” comes in.
Once a fellow co-op member, afraid of the expense of converting to a condo, which my husband was leading the building members to do, responded by verbally attacking both me and my little children, quite viciously, for weeks. I took my children aside and reminded them what Jesus said about loving your enemies. That love had power over hate, and that nothing could stop them [or her!] from being completely loved by God. We had to look for an opportunity to bless her.
A day came when we heard her scream, and we ran up to see what the problem was. Her precious cat had escaped and fled into traffic while at the vet. We calmed her down and said we’d help. We made posters and put them all over the neighborhood, and assured her that God would care for them both. The cat was found, and she thanked us deeply. The changeover was completed harmoniously, blessing everyone. She cried when we moved saying we were the best neighbors she’d ever had.
If God is love, and the only substance, the only power, the only creator, the only presence, hatred has no power, presence, substance or history. We all really live and move in love, and Jesus was promising that we could all prove this as we deal with each other tenderly.
Thank you, Diane, for sharing your experience with your neighbor. Very touching and wonderful teaching moment for your children — and us!
Thank you, once again, Evan, for highlighting yet another vital topic.
I’ve sometimes thought that forgiveness should be…taught in public schools!
And elsewhere! Such an important quality to understand and to express.
Mary Baker Eddy quotes Plato in her book, Christian Healing (pg. 8:15)
“What thou seest, that thou beest.”
I think of this quite often, as a reminder that I am only seeing a belief about God’s man, and clearly need to correct anything that does not meet the definition of man as made in God’s image and likeness! Quite a tall order, but we must use every opportunity, beginning with…ourselves! Accepting only the truth about oneself enables (requires!) us to accept only the truth about others. This is, after all, a Science, the Divine Science of….Life!
Have God’s Day, everyone.
Like the addition of identifying who “said”!the words in the Bible passage 🙂
Evan: Thank you, as always, for your daily feast of love. You get such lovely readers to your pages and they have so much love to share.
Nergish: You ask if others also struggle with forgiveness. [First, let me say how dear you are to be here on Spiritview every day, so often with truly deep and helpful comments. Your presence and reflections show clearly how much you desire to align with Love through these Christly teachings and actions. That alone shows me how much Christly character you already express. That gives me great confidence that you will get to your goals, “be it slow or fast!” (See MBEddy’s prayer for the big children.)]
As to your question, I can’t speak for anyone else but myself, but, yes, sometimes I struggle quite a bit with letting go of judgement and resentment, especially after someone has seemingly intentionally hurt me or loved ones or innocent bystanders. The task seems to be to let go of believing that someone *can* harm me or another innocent one, humanly more difficult when there seems to be a great physical, financial, or/and mental harm done. It may take great perseverance. Sometimes the forgiving comes readily once I set myself to it and sometimes it’s the work of years. Sometimes, the “evidence” of evil seems so strong that it means completely refuting and very consciously turning away from what the material senses are shouting. One major thing that helps me is Jesus’ example, when on the cross, praying, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” It doesn’t say whether Jesus had forgiven them yet at that point or not, but he was able to ask the Father to forgive them. He was reaching out to divine Goodness to be manifested, just like you and I are! Jesus clearly reached his goal, and we will, too, if we keep pressing toward it. In every case where I have truly been able to forgive, I have gotten such wonderful release from a heavy sense of burden, from carrying around the error (resentment, self-righteousness, mental rehearsal of evil, etc.). A wonderfully clean slate! My sense from your many posts is that you have certainly experienced this, as well. Your heart seems so full of love!
Diane: Thank you so much for your story. Your stand to love in spite of the unfair anger aimed at you and to show your children how to treat this individual with so much good will is truly inspiring and helpful.
Spiritviewfan: Thanks also for your worthy words and ideas.
I forgot to mention that I often am in need of being forgiven, and am so grateful to the loving hearts who see their way to forgive me! Most of the “wrongs” done to others aren’t intended; they’re just from a lack of understanding between people, so being easily forgiving helps keep communications open and adds to overall world peace. I know I’m totally speaking to the choir here! LOL! 🙂
Thanks so much Evan for the healing reply.. So very kind of you indeed to provide us daily inspirations and also to go back to the blog and answer our queries too. That’s great. So grateful to God for you.
Your guidance that “Its human pride, ego and self-righteousness that get offended, and we want to be 100% free of those in order to triumph over our enemies and move on without any hurt or harm from them, just like Jesus did.” has helped me helped me tremendously in making a shift in my thought.
I now know I need to be more humble less wilful and question myself “Am I forming perfect models in thought? Is my thought pure? Do I truly see everyone out of the purity of my thought? Where is my gaze? Is it in the right direction, am I walking that way..? Mrs Eddy says, “Love never loses sight of loveliness” I need to increase my love levels so that I never lose sight of loveliness. The shift needs to be made in my thought and not in the person with whom I am angry. It’s my wilfulness, my ego which needs to be eliminated, removed and thrown away. I need to form perfect models in thought and look at them continually.. if I wish to see them in reality…
Thanks to Susie for her kind thoughts for me.. Susie you are so good yourself so you see that goodness in me.. “Love is reflected in love”…”Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder”.
I love the entire family of Spirit View headed by our kind and loving Evan. Each and every inspiration by Evan addresses the issues we face in our daily life. I learn so much from everybody who sends their comments…the poems… the lovely replies… the demonstrations… Am so blessed indeed. A big Thank You to God, to Evan and to all my friends on Spirit View.
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