Watch your arguments

July 3, 2023 | 15 comments

Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they’re yours.

~ Richard Bach

If you don’t care to own it, don’t argue for it!

15 thoughts on “Watch your arguments”

    “God is the creator of man, and, the divine Principle of man remaining perfect, the divine idea or reflection, man, remains perfect.”
    (Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, Mary Baker Eddy, p. 470:21–23)
    “The Christlike understanding of scientific being and divine healing includes a perfect Principle and idea, — perfect God and perfect man, — as the basis of thought and demonstration.” (SH, p. 259:11)
    Only Truth makes free. As God is Truth, and God is perfect, identifying with any imperfection is holding onto an error, a devilish lie. An EXTREMELY helpful recent article has this paragraph.

    “In the mental warfare for the extermination of error, the battlefield is always human consciousness, never the physical body. Even apparently deeply embedded ills and sins are annihilated when the belief in the mortal concept as real loses any hold on us, as we refuse to give error an identity or a believer. We have then impersonalized evil, and erroneous thoughts are doomed to oblivion. Man’s selfhood is seen as Christly, and healing and regeneration take place.”

    1. Thank you, Diane W.A. This is an EXTREMELY helpful article, as you stated. Dr. Stark’s articles and lectures are focused on the metaphysical, and I have always come away with greater understanding of the Bible, of the Christ, and of Mrs. Eddy’s writings. Thank you so much for sharing the link. And thank you, Evan, for the varied sources of Truth you continue to bring forward. ❤️

  2. Mrs. Eddy gives us these statements:

    “Error bites the heel of truth, but cannot kill truth. Truth bruises the head of error — destroys error. Spirituality lays open siege to materialism. On which side are we fighting?” (SH 216:7).

    “Whatever influence you cast on the side of matter, you take away from Mind, which would otherwise outweigh all else. Your belief militates against your health, when it ought to be enlisted on the side of health” (SH 168:6–10).

  3. “…refuse to give error an identity or a believer. We have then impersonalized evil, and erroneous thoughts are doomed to oblivion.”

    Thank you!

  4. “He spoke of very simple things- that it is right for a gull to fly, that freedom is the very nature of his being, that whatever stands against that freedom must be set aside, be it ritual or superstition or limitation in any form.

    “Set aside,” came a voice from the multitude, “even if it be the Law of the Flock?”

    “The only true law is that which leads to freedom,” Jonathan said. “There is no other.”
    ― Richard Bach, Jonathan Livingston Seagull

    Have loved Bach’s books since I was in high school and have several on my bookshelf. Evan’s quote is from Bach’s book “Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah” (my personal favorite of Bach’s books.)

    Let freedom ring! Happy Independence Day to all 🙂

    1. Thank you for giving the title of the Bach book. While familiar with his book Jonathan Livingston Seagull, I haven’t read the one Evan quoted from.

    2. Susan thanks for quoting from ‘Jonathan Livingston Seagull’ which is about freedom and very appropriate for this Independence holiday we are observing in the US. I haven’t read the book in years but it is very moving. I’m also a big fan of Bach’s book “Illusions.” It’s a novel but like most of his works they are semi-autobiographical, he is an avid pilot as is the main character in Illusions. Any spiritually minded person would love these two books.

      I was not surprised to read that Richard Bach was at one time a student of Christian Science and served as a reader in his local church. I love the idea of fiction writers incorporating metaphysical, universal themes in describing the lives and stories of the characters they write about. This kind of writing may resonate and reach the heart of many people who might not otherwise pick up a “spiritual” book. Thanks Evan for starting us off today with this quote.

  5. Evan, diane w.a., Mike, Susan……each of your comments resonate deeply with me …..thank you for these meaningful contributions. Let freedom ring indeed!

  6. Very simple and helpful reminder. Thank you.
    Also appreciate the comments and link from Diane, and quotes from Mike. Great way to focus thought for a new day and week.

  7. This is a wonderful topic and Richard Bach’s writing is a
    very favorite of mine, with Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
    With his being a pilot, it seems fitting that the
    limitations of mortal beliefs would be ascended to higher
    The heavenly touch of angel messages surround us and
    I love the freedom that realizing them brings … such Love
    and comfort.
    If I may share what my Mom had written as an inscription
    in my precious copy that I had asked for and she had gifted
    me, shortly after it was written. Her words mean so much
    to me, as she and my Dad have ascended to the suite of
    heavenly thinking years ago.
    She had written:

    “Among the goals that Jonathan aimed for, were, perfection,
    progress, growth and the overcoming of limitation. He was
    persistent and conscientious and expressed the qualities of
    grace, beauty, patience, life and dominion over matter. In
    practicing his kindness lessons, he worked more to know
    the nature of love …
    May you, too, master all of these qualities by reflecting God.
    God is Life. Life is Eternal”.
    Love, Mother and Dad

    I have shared this wonderfully uplifting book with my landlady
    when I was in college when her husband had passed on and she
    was comforted by it.
    The sweet/happy photo above reminds me of my Grandfather and this
    topic reminds me that mortal limitations only exist if we let them.
    Love is eternal.

    1. Carol I also wanted to mention that I relate to what you said about how it Appears that everyone else is enjoying wonderful Norman Rockwell-type holidays, My life is far from that and I sometimes feel like I’m “missing out.” But you know how error loves to use this tactic, to try to make us feel different, isolated, lacking in some form of Good, separated from God. But we CAN’T be cut off from our good because we CAN”T be cut off from our God.

  8. Thank you Evan and all. This is what I needed today. There is no need arguing on what is already stated and proven as a fact.. Truth has nothing to argue on but to say Amen. Such arguments only come about because of our limited minds which do not exist as there is no Truth in them. In Science and Health, Mary Baker Eddy writes, ” A limitless Mind cannot proceed from physical limitations. Finiteness cannot present the idea or the vastness of infinity.

  9. Evan, Thank you for this rousing quote from Richard Bach’s book “Illusions,…”. It prompts me to dust off my copy of the book and take it with me on my upcoming vacation. His books are especially dear to me as I was told he took Christian Science class instruction from my teacher.

    We can all cherish and celebrate our God given freedom and dominion over this Independence holiday . Love, gratitude, and a joyous holiday to this congregation of liberated spiritual thinkers!

  10. Well, I think also Germany could celebrate together with America the Independence Day, however for another reason than dear America!
    Thank and praise our God who gives us the real freedom, namely spiritual freedom!

    Have you all a happy Independence Day, you dear American friends!♡♡♡

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